Spiritual / Religious

Original article posted by Asmodeus:

I just lost a good friend this week. You all know her, we were never able to get along, because she dont like my “threatening attitude towards her” she wants me to be less powerfull as I am or to her as I think I am.

What the Hell am I? I am a Magi, a fairly powerfull one at that, some of you mormans would call me a satanist! So what maybe i fancy the dark arts. i dont want to hear oh well you are going to destroy yourself either.

I am aware that the devils I call are feeding off what one may call a soul. But that influence has gotten me everywhere, how powerfull am I? Well give me a picture of you and a piece of your hair and we will find out together.

The thing is I loved this girl so much, but now she is apart of the experiment, i have what i need to do her harm she dont need to be in my life for me to practice evil on her!

Now she has given me the hatred I need to do what i want with her energy, yes I have already started my black Magick on her, no she will not know the effects until the day she gives birth, yes i am cursing her blood line not her, I think it would benifit me more to destroy something she would love more than herself. why? because I can not bring myself to do her direct harm, however I loath all others and that hate would be her child.

Soon I will give this site, the decree of the Magi, poetry in itself, I will let you meet the man who does not believe in someone else’s religion, but defied god and created his own religion.

Orginal comments:

Nickname: weighted_quill
Re: Raven the Magi
Could someone help me understand how these two statements are reconcilable?

“[. . .] we do not seek to replenish the earth but seek to cleanse the earth of the foulness that is man.”


“[. . .] the more people Belial has the better the world will be.”

I don’t think I’d like your club.

Nickname: Asmodeus
Re: Raven the Magi
There is nothing to reconcile, and if you are christian or LDS or anything that has to do with the christ, you would not like my club, but dont go mistaking it for a club, it is a building army. There is only hate that drives me now, i dont expect kellie to be friends with me at all, I have the wisdom of lord belial.

Let me break down who or what Lord belial is, he is the leader of the fallen, the Angel who was so great that heaven could not accept it. He is my master my lord my birthright the one who will purify this earth once again, there is more to it than just war and people will begin to see what is happening to there world but it will be too late.

As for queers like Ryan well he will remain weak as he is now all talk and no game, oh yes Ryan she is waiting for you to stick up for her!

I just hope she is planning on having him up this way I would love to see him in action a little one on one well that is it for now

Nickname: Asmodeus
Re: Raven the Magi
Another raven I see, hello Ravenpaine I am Grand Magus White Raven, you are the one who likes to insult people are you not?

So I am not the only one that Pisses kellie off I see?

I am going to target Ryan now, I think Kellie wants me to, its weird she wants him to defend her yet he can only use mere words.

She loves to hate me I think that is why in the five years I have known her we always fight yet she still continues to try to see how I am doing, News flash Kellie I am getting more hatefull not less I am not a nicer person women like you have taught me well in manipulation.

See you Later Ravenpaine

Nickname: ravenpaine
Re: Raven the Magi
If this doesn’t constitute as a threat I loathe the poor soul who does get threatened…

Ah the internet… allowing crazed shut-ins the soapbox they so need to demonstrate exactly why it is that they lurk behind closed doors.

Rodney TGAP
emphasis on the Lurk

Nickname: ryan
Re: Raven the Magi
Oh my.

I’ll probably incurr the ‘wrath of black arts’ on myself for saying this, but I don’t care. I’ll tell you exactly ‘what the hell’ you are: An attention driven crybaby.

Look at the crap he put on my blog under a topic entitled ‘Hostile Government takeover of Spanish Fork Concert’ … (you tell me if it has anything to do with it):

The first Laws Of the Magi

1. He who is known as the Grand Magus has absolute power and can only be disbanded by his council with a 12 out of 12 vote. Grand Magus is also chosen by this very councel.

2. Blood worship is needed in order for one to obtain the dark spirits, however consuming blood is a sin of the Magi, and those who break this law shall be thrown to the furnace as an offering.

3. Draining life from animal or earth is forbidden, because of the pact of the sage, all energy must be drawn from humans only!

4. Plural Marriage is forbidden, we do not seek to replenish the earth but seek to cleanse the earth of the foulness that is man.

Well that is not all the laws however, I will have to get the rest to you later for I am out of time right now and have a person to meet, for more info on the Magi and my doctorine I will have a web site for you, we are working on it now so when I am done be sure to go there the more people Belial has the better the world will be.

Let me tell you something ‘Grand Magus’.. if you want to tell me something about your cult, then fine… email me. I list my email address right on my site. But please, don’t spam my blog.

Nickname: ravenpaine
Re: Raven the Magi
Remind me to take a moment and tell you off on your supposed “research” and home-brew religous everything.

Also… if at all possible could you stop threatening ang everyone? Attacking groups and generalities happens around here but constantly going after one person will utlimately get you in a wide variety of troubles… Not the least of which is Vincent, who does not care for this sort of thing and has done far worse to people he actually likes…

Rodney TGAP
Last Knight on earth… with occasional dashing moments

Nickname: Asmodeus
Re: Raven the Magi
Ok I am reminding you to tell me off about my home brewed religion, which of course I need to ask you before you start to go off, I am just assuming you are wiccan or some type pagan beliefe, have you ever heard of the 72 goetian devils? I would like to try to call them that of course is not apart of my “home made religion” I just want to try to do it and see what happens.

So are you the rodney that she left for dipshit? Oh sorry my bad rodney I mean to say she left for ryan? I heard all sorts of tales about you, there was one time she was way pissed off at you this was way back when like two or three years back she dated a Rodney perhaps that was not you.

I can stop picking on her if you wish, she is just so damn easy cause there is nothing she can do about it and this Vincint character, by chance what is he supposed to do to me? Hmmm? See there is a problem I have with that, see you people are down there and I am here you could find me because that is what I want I like a good spurt of violence, my favorite and I am so damn good at it is playing on your anger and rage.

As for my home grown religion, well I will give you a chance to go off on it that is why I am reminding you now, I want you to that is what makes it fun. As for ryan well he is a pansey I am sorry that is just truth and I know kellers better than any of you, I can tell you she is already getting bored of him, I dont need to know him i just need to know how she is to tell you that he is a pussy, see Kellie’s father in a sense is kind of a Nazi, Kellie will always struggle to have control of her males, my problem and yours from what she tells me if in fact you are that rodney is that we both think only of ourselves and not enough about her needs but I can not help it, and I am sure you could not help that we have our own idea’s and agenda’s.

Her pussy means nothing to me that is not what I wanted from her, trust me I have eaten better cleaner pussy than what she has to offer, and it was non fridgid pussy, kellie can not get that wet, from what Neal told me at least, I almost feel bad for the girl.

But that is over now for my religion I will give you something to go off on now its your turn so here is what you can go off on this time.

The White Raven that being my calling what I go by, we wont get into that name just yet, lets talk about what it is I am setting up, it is a form of government for the time of the Antichrist it is a way to govern this region when he is here on this plane he will govern from the temple of humanity is what it will be called the lost temple but whatever form it may come in it will need people to help it govern and control those who do not consider it the true messiah, pretty much a committee will control this region there will be a special temple built here I already have the site in mind.

What will happen is the people that control this religion, it wont be mine anymore I will die before the day of glory and most of our generation will be dead and gone I am not doing it for my generation god no none of you would take to it, I am doing it for your childerens generation of course they will be easy targets of course it will be easy for you to go off on it, it is not for your day, I wish it was I would love to torment more people than I already have.

It is a religion based on deny christ and live stay with christ and no longer have your head or family. Ok have fun going off, but tread carefully make sure you can back up what you say that is all I ask, and just refrain from telling me to respect kellie come on there is nothing to respect, she cant even look me in the eys when we talk how weak is that, by the way you dont need to know this but when you talk to me in person stay on my eyes it could save you as lot of trouble mean you can tell if I am loking for something to injure you with or if I am listening sincerely to you, Kellie cant ever look me in the eyes I tried to make her once.

Well I am done see you have fun making fun of my religion

Nickname: ravenpaine
Re: Raven the Magi
Thank you so very much for giving purpose to my life and providing a focus to my thoughts. Your challenge is accepted and I hope that I can do my best to answer it as it was given… to this effect I will now….

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Original article posted by gandhi2:

The story of Job is one of the most confusing tales of religion that I’ve ever came across on my “path to enlightenment.” This guy, Job, who was “perfect and upright,” followed God, and did just as he was supposed to. God’s MVP, if you will.

Now this kind of perturbs the other guy,… you know, the bad guy. Satan approaches God and offers the classic challenge: he can make him take off his coat first(maybe that’s another tale, but essentially its the same). Lucifer’s argument is that Job is so faithful because he’s livin’ the high life. It’s easy to be true to God when you got thousands of any imaginable type of livestock, plenty of loving family, and fame rivaling the royalty of the land.

God, of course, does the only thing a benevolent Creator can do in such an instance: he hands over full control to the bad guy. Oh, Satan is not allowed to actually harm Job HIMSELF, but he has full reign to screw over his life. This he does with in short time. A couple days later, Job is without posessions, cursed with boils, and seriously rethinking some of his major ideas about how the universe works. What the hell was going on? He’s been a good man, he’s done everything right, he has to deal with a shower of crapulence.

Perhaps the most confusing part of the story of Job is the conversations he has with the various “-ites, ” where he is chastised for questioning the will of God Just a couple of great lines:

“Remember, I pray thee, who ever perished, being innocent? or where were the righteous cut off?”(Job 4:7)

“Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker? Behold, he put no-trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly;”(Job 4:16-17)
“Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole. He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. “(Job 5:17-19)

“Is there not an appointed time to man upon earth? are not his days also like the days of an hireling?
As a servant earnestly desireth the shadow, and as an hireling looketh for the reward of his work:”(Job 6:1-2)

“Can the rush grow up without mire? can the flag grow without water?”(Job 8:11)

“If he will contend with him, he cannot answer him one of a thousand. He is wise in heart, and mighty in strength: who hath hardened himself against him, and hath prospered? Which removeth the mountains, and they know not: which overturneth them in his anger. Which shaketh the earth out of her place, and the pillars thereof tremble. Which commandeth the sun, and it riseth not; and sealeth up the stars. Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea. Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades, and the chambers of the south. Which doeth great things past finding out; yea, and wonders without number. Lo, he goeth by me, and I see him not: he passeth on also, but I perceive him not. Behold, he taketh away, who can hinder him? who will say unto him, What doest thou?”(Job 9:3-12)

“Man that is born of a woman is of few days, and full of trouble. He cometh forth like a flower, and is cut down: he fleeth also as a shadow, and continueth not.”(Job 14:1-2)

Job is basically told that he’ll be ok if he just sticks it out. If he deals with the crap, he’ll be rewarded; if he is killed because of God’s greater plan, he’ll enjoy an afterlife of luxury. Job sees that he was wrong, but points out how useless it is to do anything else BUT fear God and do as he has commanded. There are countless times where the “-ites” tell Job that life is short, so you can’t really suffer for very long, reminding him of his mortality.

Job’s faith is reaffirmed by the pep-talks, and he goes on a rant showing that even the rich man will eventually lose it all, and eventually end up as dust, just like the rest of us. The man who curses God is a coward and chump, because he’ll get the smiting he deserves when God decides its what He wants to do.

At this point, Job is further tested. A man named Elihu gives his two cents, agreeing with Job’s earlier argument of the futility of any resistance. Elihu makes the point that God can do whatever he likes, which must have touched a sensitive note with God, because he later shows up “in the flesh.”

I think that at this point, Job was starting to waver. Up to now, he had always assumed that God knew what he was doing, and as a benevolent deity, would NEVER do anything to harm him(unless it served a larger plan). Job started to see that God was acting pretty sadistic and chaotic neutral. Why bother serving God, when at any given point, He’ll screw you over, just to prove a point.

In the Bible, the story has a “happy” ending. God comes down, yells at the “-ites” for there confusing talk, affirms his omnipotence with tales of greatness (You question the entity that can rearrange the constellations if he so desired?), and rewards Job for enduring the ordeal by commanding the “-ites” to donate livestock to Job.

However, I think that the story is a bunch of crap. I’m generally an altruist and can have quite a lot of patience, but I see no point whatsoever in putting up with all the shit that a sadistic God might throw at me. It kind of makes me think that the only difference between the “good guy” and the “bad guy” is the time that the crapulence happens. With Satan, you live in happiness (or at least temporary happiness) and have the everpresent fear that it may all be taken away from you and go to hell for all eternity. With God, you live in misery (with the guarantee that it won’t last for eternity), and have the everpresent hope that it will all be taken away from you.

Feel free to comment. I love a healthy religious debate. Perhaps you can enlighten me about Job.

Original article posted by Olorle:

If I believe in anything, I believe in hope.

I’ve toiled through rampant supidity, hating what I was doing and wanting to get to the point where it has nearly killed me because of this belief. The funny thing is, the most lasting thing I’ve managed from this is a reputation as a jerk. Wanting to push people free from the stinking miasma of stagnation and stupidity doesn’t sit well with most people. They like the easy road. The status quo.

Now, I don’t claim to have all the answers. Or any of the answers. I just want people to sit up and look at some of the other ideas that exist in this world. I’m not going to tell you what you should or should not believe. I just like acknowledgements that other things exist. I’ll even lend you a copy of some of these other things if you ask nicely.

“Comparing what we are looking for misses the point. It’s wanting to know that makes us matter. Otherwise we’re going out the way we came in. That’s why you can’t believe in the afterlife, Valentine. Believe in the after, by all means, but not the life. Believe in God, the soul, the spirit, the infinite, believe in angels if you like, but not in the great celestial get-together for an exchange of views. If the answers are in the back of the book I can wait, but what a drag. Better to struggle on knowing that failure is final.”
-Tom Stoppard, Arcadia

So I keep trying. I keep attempting to prod people. To make a difference. To find the answers no matter how impossible that might be. I want to ask questions and spend hours of the night bantering with my friends about the possibility of this or that being right. About all of those things people kill one another for , regardless of how close they might be to believing the same thing. I want to talk about Cain and Lucipher and Olivier and Uriel and why angels of death fall. I want to make my own mistakes and find my own path rather than following the yellow-brick road and hoping it doesn’t lead me to the wicked witch.

Stagnant is dead. Ninja proverb.

Orginal comments:

Nickname: Junpei
Re: Sequencing Thoughts
“stagnation is death”

they both come with true speed.
for at what point is stagnation truely stagnant?
at what point is death truely dead?

Nickname: Olorle
Re: Sequencing Thoughts
As much as your statement is lovely and retorical enough that I should leave it be, I’m afraid I’m still going to be forced to try and answer.
I think both of these points are reached when questions stop.

Nickname: Junpei
Re: Sequencing Thoughts
the pool asks no questions, and yet can become stagnant

it’s waters change, move, and flow

when it is still, rot sets in, stagnation builds, and death arrives

the waves keep the pool alive

a boy may ask a thousand questions. if he never change, improve, learn and grow, he will stagnate

the question was, indeed, retoric. by answer it, you have set it aside, and have claimed to understand it. by understanding something, we know all that there is. we set it aside and know no more, we needn’t question what we understand. and by doing so, our opinions stagnate, die, and can no longer grow.

by stating one is correct, one is automatically, wrong.

Original article posted by jaddes_green:

1. I would get rid of all the guns and then bring magic powers into the world. So now all those smart people could just shoot fireballs and what not.

2. I would make monsters that ran around the world in which you could beat up for gold. It would be so cool. Instead of going to your boring job everyday you could just go outside on a walk around the mountains of doom and kill some monsters then buy a new CD or video game with the money.

3. I would also make myself the perfect girl (in my optioion at least). She would be smart, funny, cute, short red hair, green eyes and very musically talented.

4. Hand over all my god like powers to someone else who could handle the job and give myself some decent amount of powers. Not really powerful, just powerful enough that I would be above average.

Then everything would go to hell because the person I left in charge would think all the stuff I had done was stupid and change it back thus I would have no powers, a boring job, no gold to buy video games and that girl I created wouldn’t be interested in me and would run off with someone else. Life would return to normal but at least I would have a really good conversation piece.

Original article posted by Olorle:

First off, if I were God then I would allow for the solving of at least some amount of problems through rampant stabbing. Because sometimes, really? it’s neccessary.

Beyond that, things would start getting interesting. First off, I believe a certain level of zombies rising up to destroy the world and strange fairy realms touching the “real” world and things of that nature would be a must. I’m still all for things having both good and evil in them, but the occasional risen dead that obviously should be stopped would be allowable and possibly encouraged.

As a being of infinite power, I’d also occasionalyl turn myself off for a while to awaken again when my creations truely need me.

I would be a merciful and loving God and if I end up smiting you, well, you probably deserved it. And smitings would be done in person. If I’m going to met out some wrath, I want to do it in a hands on fashion.

I also think I’d do a certain amount of sneaking into Rodney’s creation so that I could attempt to take out his guardian angels Tenchu style. Just to keep them in practice.

Original article posted by -soma-:

Awhile back I whined about this poet we were reading in class, Donald Revell. I’m still not keen on his poetry, but the guy had a few interesting things to say when he talked to the class on Wednesday…

Growing up he was taught that no one is going to go to hell because God is love, and if God is love, then why the hell would He damn anyone to hell, Goddammit

I would not damn you to hell, no matter what you did. Punishment is one thing, it makes you stronger and empathetic to those who you have wronged; eternal damnation is an entirely different matter – it is everlasting, and whatever suffering you caused to wind you up in hell is nothing compared to what you’re in for.

I wouldn’t expect you to believe in me. Your true character is determined when you are good for no reason other than you’re a good person, not because I command you to be good and if you aren’t good than you’re going to hell.

I would provide proof that I exist. I would weave it into the language of mathematics like Carl Sagan’s God does in “Contact”. That way you would know that I WAS the Almightly, none of this “uhh…so if God is all powerful can he create a rock he cannot lift” which proves nothing other than the person asking the question is an idiot and needs me to send them to purgatory for a few millennia until they’ve had some intelligence burned into them. NOTE: I wouldn’t keep him there any longer than necessary.

And finally…

I would be androgenous, because, as a sincere feminist I mustn’t allow for any gender to rule over another.

Maybe God is all these things. If he/she is than we can’t call him/her “him” or “her”. We’ll need a new pronoun desginated just for God. How about “herim’ or “hier” which is actually Greek from hieros, which means holy, so it would work.

farewell and goodday,

Original article posted by ravenpaine:

First and foremost, if I was God I would create the universe and promptly set about writing a list of incredible prophecies to introduce my favorite NPCs (non-player characters). Every 100 or so years a new hero of fabulous potential and limitless power would arrise to help make things right again.

On many of these occasions I would play the part of the NPC. I would lock away portions of my personality and memories and powers (to make it fair) and then I would seal myself in an ice cavern only to be discovered in a time of dire need by a group of young children who hope to save the world and took the time to find my hidden resting place as dictated by prophecy.

They would arrive and awaken me and I, bleary eyed and yet awe inspiring with sword in hand and outlandish accent and the perfect amount of scruffy countenance, would ask, “What kind of technology does this age have?”

They would reply, “Blah, blah, blah.” Which I would translate to mean, feudal, like France circa 1320. And I would say, “Ah, of course. Come this way. Put those on.”

And I would direct the children to put on outlandish gear of outstanding power.

Then I would get the Ben Bike. A motorcylce of steampunk origin that would rumble like thunder and drive like the very wind itself. The childern would ask, “Is that a horse of some kind?”

And I would reply in my best Australian Biker voice, “Yeah, something like that. Let’s ride.” And then I would gun the engine and ride out of the cave to take on tyranny in all of its forms and leave with a lesson taught and more evil waiting to uprise in the wings because the number 2 thing I would do as God is always return in the sequel.

The Third thing I would do as God is assign angels to actually wander around appearing and fulfilling their functions. Each would have a word and each would appear to do their job when their job needed doing.

My universe wouldn’t be easy to live in. Many of the same things would happen there as they do here, but in my universe you could always stand up and declare, ‘This isn’t working and I’m not going to take it anymore!” And then storm off into the night and get your crew together and take action. And it would work. That’s the important part.

Fourth, as God I would wander the earth as a great and sage like wanderer always helping in subtle ways to steer the course. I would give up the majority of my powers and maintain only three things while on earth: the ability to resume my full power if necessary, unaging immortality (meaning I could be killed and feel pain, but in the former case I would rever according to clause one), and the right of stat swap. Yes, I would roll up a character or build a character (depending on the wanderer) and go to earth to live that life. In times of great need I could always switch out some points here and there to take care of the situation but only a little cheating would be necessary to help out the mortals.

Finally, fifth and most important, in my universe all religions that proclaim that they are the only true way would be plauged by a certain set of increasing prophesied plagues until they learned to knock it off and get along. Judge not lest ye be judged, do unto others, turn the other cheek, and an eye for an eye, would be read properly to mean: If you are going to go out and do something be prepared to accept consequences. Everyone would live the line that prince Ashitaka delivers in Princess Mononoke, “I was prepared the moment I knocked my arrow.” In my universe personal responsibility would be the foremost of virtues and redemption and love would be for everyone.

None of this you made a mistake and now it is all over crap.

That’s what I would do? How about you?

Rodney TGAP
not holier than thou, but probably more willing to suffer for his errors than thou

Orginal comments:

Nickname: gandhi2
what i would do if i was god.
i’d be lawful neutral.
i’d never contradict myself. paradoxes are for philosophers to create and puzzle over.
i’d give others the chance to become gods. recursion rocks.
i’d make fantastical creatures that had no real purpose besides begging the question thereof.
i’d never create questions that didn’t have answers.
i wouldn’t be a heavy-handed GM.
i’d watch, no matter how much i just wanted to show them all how its done.
i’d make the answer to the ultimate question visible in life. no offense intended to the number 42, cavemen playing scrabble, or the late, great douglas adams.
i’d type without capitalization(most of the time) and nobody could say anything about it.. 😛
every couple millenia, something marvelous would happen that would give people somewhat of an understanding of just how cool it is to be alive.
there would be things worth questing for and ideals worth dying for.
there’d be NO SUCH THING as eternal damnation, and hell would be self-created.
truth would be a constant.
i’d STILL play video games, and, hey, i’d understand japanese!

this list is longer….i’ll stop now though.

Nickname: SmokyWolf
Re: What I would do if I was God
Y’know, the first thing I’d do as God is find out what “rules” there are to the cosmos and then go about destroying as many as I could. Those who chose to worship me on the worlds I created (and who wouldn’t want to worship me?) would realize that living a life for rules is a waste of the life I gave them. IF they started in with the whole “lets make rules to show how pious we are” I’d either zap them myself or send down an angel with a flaming sword to chop some heads. As a God I would color outside the lines. Maybe I’d just erase the lines themselves. I could definately go for spending some time as a hero in my own creations. I’m going to use that one myself, because hey as a God you can’t get after me if I “borrow” a little or I’ll smite thee on your impertinent little ass.

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